Re: [SystemSafety] Automobile regulations

From: Mike Ellims < >
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 23:18:57 -0000

jean-louis Boulanger Wrote:

> Actually the automotive domain don't want to discuss of certification or
external assessment.  

Actually this isn't correct.

For vehicles type certified under UNECE R13-H which covers light vehicles some external assessment is required for brake systems, including ABS and ESP. For example in the UK VOSA for be the certifying authority and in Germany one of the TUV organizations.

Technical documentation supplied would more or less have to conform to ISO 26262, the structure of which is pulled more or less straight from one of the regulations annexes. That is, 26262 is structured to meet the regulation.  

The same applies to a couple of other vehicle subsystems but currently I believe not engine control units.

As I understand it (last time I looked) the intent was to break out the annex (which exists in at least two regulations) as a separate regulation for all complex control systems.  

In America the situation is different in that manufactures self certify, for brake systems essentially to the same set of requirements (hence the H in 13-H for harmonized).  


From: systemsafety-bounces_at_xxxxxx [mailto:systemsafety-bounces_at_xxxxxx jean-louis Boulanger
Sent: 29 October 2013 22:44
To: Shreve, Erik
Cc: systemsafety_at_xxxxxx Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Automobile regulations  


Actually the automotive domain don't want to discuss of certification or external assessment.

for some softwares such motor control and/or ABS in europe it exist some regulations link to the particle emission but they are no external assessment  


2013/10/29 Shreve, Erik <EShreve_at_xxxxxx

Vehicles are outside my professional domain. However, given recent news, I'm curious if any work is being done on regulating software that provides essential performance in automobiles.  

Expert testimony at a recent trial provided quite a list of issues with the ECU firmware in an unattended acceleration case. esign-and-its-consequences  

Developers claiming autonomous cars are already safer. e-smoother-safer-drivers-than-you-or-i/      

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