Re: [SystemSafety] Scalability of Formal Methods [was: Logic]

From: RICQUE Bertrand (SAGEM DEFENSE SECURITE) < >
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:10:59 +0100


And from an IEC 61508 perspective you can also understand that verification is anything you do :
* horizontally from left to right
* vertically on the left side when you check that each level of engineering is still compatible with the previous one
* vertically on the right side

And validation is something totally different related to putting all the verifications together and assess them.

If you go to pharmaceutical industry, verification and validation have even other meanings that are useless without the addition of "qualification".

Bertrand Ricque
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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:30 PM Subject: [SystemSafety] Scalability of Formal Methods [was: Logic]

On 2014-02-18 18:14 , Michael Jackson wrote:
> Perhaps the discussion about scalability needs to be tightened up a little.

I think the issue of what kinds of, and how large, systems are amenable to what sort of validation/verification is very important.

First up are the meanings of validation and verification. Again. I think I first noticed a problem a quarter century ago when I started working with telecommunications people, who used the words in the opposite sense from the computer scientists I'd been working with.

When I talked about "program verification" or "software verification" I meant proving formally and rigorously that SW fulfilled its specification. (I did of course presume that SW would have a specification. It was 1992 and I was used to SE research, not industry practice. I have since learnt to relax that assumption.)

When I talked about "software validation" I meant checking whether the SW in operation fulfilled its expectations. Those expectations related to a requirements specification but they were also informal. You don't want the wheels to fall off your car, but it's not necessarily in the requirements specification that they should stay on. Many things are often not said (see "completeness"). You validate through tests, through exercising the kit.

However, the people I was talking to at a company then called Verilog (Verilog is now the name of an HDL, standardised in IEEE 1394 if I remember right) used the terms with exactly the switched meanings. Since then, I have encountered this regularly. Alvery just sent me a set of slides from an Airbus presentation in which, in terms of the V-model, "validation" is what you do up and down the left part of the "V", and "verification" is what you do horizontally across. Switched from the way I, and most computer scientists, use the terms, where "verification" goes up and down on the left, and "validation" goes across.

So, let's have a look in the Electropedia www.electropedia.org aka IEC 60050. There are just four definitions which use the term "verification".

191-14-13 (191 is Dependability and quality of service)
> maintainability verification
> a procedure applied for the purpose of determining whether the
> requirements for maintainability performance measures for an item have been achieved or not Note - The procedure may range from analysis of appropriate data to a maintainability demonstration.
>

394-33-17 (394 is Nuclear instrumentation)
> software verification
> confirmation by examination and provision of objective evidence
> that the results of an activity meet the objectives and requirements
> defined for this activity

394-22-18
>
> design verification
> process of determining wether [sic] or not the implemented system
> corresponds to the design

394-40-41
> verification
> process of ensuring that an equipment fulfils the specified
> conditions

311-01-13 (311 Electrical and electronic measurement)
> verification (of calibration)
> set of operations which is used to check whether the indications,
> under specified conditions, correspond with a given set of known measurands within the limits of a predetermined calibration diagram Note 1 - This term is used in the "uncertainty" approach.
>
> Note 2 - The known uncertainty of the measurand used for verification will generally be negligible with respect to the uncertainty assigned to the instrument in the calibration diagram.

You can forget its use in 191. BTW, "dependability" to the IEC does not mean the same as "dependability" to IFIP. In the IEC it does not include safety or security; to IFIP it most certainly does.

(A side comment about this: the Chairman of IEC TC 56, responsible for Part 191, once told me I had "nothing to contribute" to certain work of his TC because I am "a safety expert, and TC 56 does not deal with safety". I pushed this a bit higher, which earned me an official complaint, and TC 56 then "clarified" that they do consider safety aspects of their norms. Which may be a good thing since they are responsible for FMEA, HAZOP, FT, ET and RCA standards. But it concerns me that few to no safety experts sit on these committees formulating international standards which are directly relevant to system safety practices. And I think it should concern others also.)

It is interesting that the specifically software-related meanings come in the nuclear sector. Why is this? I have my guesses but would rather hear from someone who knows.

I think the instrumentation meaning of "verification" is also not directly applicable to SW systems.

Note that the three 394 meanings of "verification" allow either interpretation: "down the left V" or "across the V".

That's what the IEC says. Room for improvement, as with many IEC definitions.

To me, the activity (verb) "verify" has two arguments. You verify A against B. You verify a design specification against a requirements specification. You verify a design against a design specification. You verify an implementation (SW source code) against a design. You verify object code against (the meaning of) source code (if this source code is unambiguous). And so on. A verification succeeds if and only if B is shown to be a refinement of A. "Refinement" is a technical term accessible to those who have studied formal description languages :-) You may verify anything in the left part of the "V" against anything higher up in that part, and the meaning is always the same: a refinement. Under certain caveats; in a certain environment; within a certain input/parameter-value domain.

To me, the activity "validation" almost always means some sort of running the kit to see what it does. But it could include formal modelling, and sampling the state space (often far too large for exceptionless inspection) to ensure that properties "mostly" hold.

I am sure you have your own, well-rehearsed answers to your five questions and I hope mine are not incompatible :-)

> 1. Questioning 'scalability' assumes, I think that work 'on a larger
> scale' is in some respects different from work 'on a smaller scale'. Are there such differences, and, if so, what are they?

One is the super-linear increase in most of the targets of effort (= engineer per time unit). Another is the effective upper bound on the effort at any one moment in time.

The upper bound increases by jumps, as technology becomes available which was not available before (e.g., Ed Clarke's "10^(20)" paper).

The "does not scale" assertion is really a claim that the current effective upper bound is lower than that required for the majority of target applications, whatever those may be. Here arises a clear need to be more precise.

For example, David tells us that a couple hundred thousand lines of Ada source have been formally verified in 2006 using Atelier B. Now, if that was all SPARK source I would be prepared to believe it, but I'd want to know how many proof obligations were left undischarged. If it isn't all SPARK source, then I become more wary. Also, my experience tells me that, of any industrial system with reliability requirements, 90%-95% of the source code is boilerplate. Boilerplate is functionally simple and easy formally to verify; furthermore, it is repeated all over. So 95% of your functional code is going to be easy formally to verify, if you are organised and put in the effort. But that 5% - now that could really do you in! It's theorem-proving and the math might do you in, even with the best prover technology. Rushby and von Henke's verification (well, partial verification because some of the algorithms were incomplete) of clock sync algorithms in PVS is a very-well-cited major paper in IEEE TSE.

My experience also tells me that provers (the people, not the tool) are a mixture of nature and nurture. Virtuosi/virtuose. I spent weeks on some hand proofs in 1995 that Mark Saaltink rattled off in half a day using the EVES prover. And one that he couldn't. Then that was my half-day to discover that the assertion was wrong, fix it, and have him verify it in ten minutes. A decade earlier I convinced Mark Stickel briefly that the usual axioms for S4.3 and S5 must obviously be part of a terminating Knuth-Bendix reduction rule set. He spent a whole afternoon patiently manipulating his K-B prover to show me that his intuition that it was unlikely was more accurate than mine. BTW, not all provers are called Mark :-)

> 2. Are we discussing the applicability of particular formal methods
> such as X, Y and Z, as described in their respective books and papers?
> Or the applicability of disciplined formal logic and mathematics generally?

Both, I think. I agree that the considerations are different.

> 3. Is the question whether the putatively applicable method or
> discipline is locally and partially applicable (as, for example,
> arithmetic is locally and partially applicable to architecture), or is
> globally applicable (as, for example, COBOL was at one time claimed to be globally applicable to the whole of a data processing system)?

I think almost any successful application of FM is local-and-partial rather than global.

> 4. Self-evidently we expect logic to save us from logic errors in
> development. Are there other kinds of error? If so, what saves us from them, and how is it related to the use of logic?

There are run-time errors. SPARK saves us from those. :-)

I also wouldn't think that all misfits between specifications and their refinements are inevitably logic errors. I am not sure that I would categorise out-of-bounds and thereby mishandled input as a *logic* error.

> 5. Is it true that formal expression of any requirement, design or
> other development artifact is superior to informal expression? If not,
> how are informal and formal expression related in a development?

I think yes-and-no. Superior in various ways, for example lack of ambiguity, efficacy of consistency-checking, suitability for formal manipulation of most sorts. And inferior in others, for example intuitive understanding; a reason why natural-language specifications are legally required for technical systems in certain areas (German railways, for example).

PBL Prof. Peter Bernard Ladkin, Faculty of Technology, University of Bielefeld, 33594 Bielefeld, Germany Tel+msg +49 (0)521 880 7319 www.rvs.uni-bielefeld.de



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