Re: [SystemSafety] Nissan's new Indian car unsafe

From: RICQUE Bertrand (SAGEM DEFENSE SECURITE) < >
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 13:58:50 +0100


The paradox is that all car standards are written for cars weighing over 1 ton and going over 100 km/h (and consuming over 6l/100km) and at the same time the future should be cars weighing less than 500 km, unable to go faster than 50 km/h and consuming between 1 and 2l/100km.

These cars exist more or less already (in France they are called "without driving license") an can go anywhere but on motorways. They are obviously not compliant with the standards.

Now imagine that the quantity of these vehicles raise over 30 / 40% of all the vehicles, without changing the rules. You are in India ... and maybe they are right and just one step ahead.

Bertrand Ricque
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Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 9:45 AM To: José Faria
Cc: <systemsafety_at_xxxxxx Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Nissan's new Indian car unsafe

On 2014-11-07 21:54 , José Faria wrote:
> Sadly enough, rule of law for some people/organizations seams no more
> than a getaway for tremendously stupid acts.

Personally, I wouldn't rush to judgement on the efficacy of such a (to us) flimsy vehicle.

The most obviously dangerous feature of traffic in many countries is not the construction of the vehicles but the carefree driving behavior. This is particularly true in this vehicle's target market.

There are plenty of people there whose normal mode of transport for self+spouse+kids+wares+goat is a small motorcycle. I see many reasons why the occupants would be better off with four wheels instead of two and minimal shelter from the environment. The goat would likely be happier, and the market wares stay dry when it rains. If you make the vehicle collision-resistant, then that might well encourage the driver to be more assertive in the traffic melee (what John Adams calls risk homeostasis if I remember rightly) and many of them doing it would render the roads even riskier for pedestrians and two-wheeled-vehicle riders than they are at the moment.

As I think Mike Ellims once wrily noted, it has been suggested that a huge contribution to road safety anywhere could come from a mandatory sharp spike mounted in the steering wheel pointing right at the driver! :-)

PBL Prof. Peter Bernard Ladkin, Faculty of Technology, University of Bielefeld, 33594 Bielefeld, Germany Tel+msg +49 (0)521 880 7319 www.rvs.uni-bielefeld.de



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