Re: [SystemSafety] GAO report on FAA cybersecurity vulnerabilities ... and an instance

From: Matthew Squair < >
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:30:33 +1000

Likewise, but perhaps we should apply the 10th man principle...

Matthew Squair

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On 20 Apr 2015, at 6:15 pm, RICQUE Bertrand (SAGEM DEFENSE SECURITE) < bertrand.ricque_at_xxxxxx

I am rather skeptical. The avionics are on ARINC bus, and even if it is connected through a firewall to an IP network (why ?) I don't see it can be possible to enter an avionics box.

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I sent the following to Peter Neumann's Risks Forum.

The US Government Accounting Office has published a report on the vulnerability of FAA equipment and avionics to cyberattack . It makes three main points. The third one is organisational; I am concerned here with the first two.

First, the FAA has not developed and apparently doesn't intend to develop a threat model for its ground-based systems. Unsurprisingly, the GAO thinks it might be a good idea to do so.

Many FAA ground-based systems are decades old and were installed in an era which didn't need to worry as much about cybersecurity. Many of them are dedicated systems, so some physical access would be required. But some are not. Does anyone remember the NY ATC outage a quarter century ago? Failure of a commercial 4ESS switch took out ATC. I seem to remember (or was it another incident?) ATCOs coordinating by using their private mobile phones. A DoS attack on ATC communications nowadays could take out a commercial switch but would have to take out the cellular phone comms also. So there's the first entry for the threat model.

Second, the GAO queries the wisdom of critical avionics and passenger in-flight entertainment systems (IFE) sharing network resources. So did many of us when it was first mooted (for the Boeing 787, I seem to recall). Because, after all, the best start on assuring non-interference is physical separation of networks and good shielding. And indeed someone recently claimed on Fox News to be able to hack avionics through the IFE He was apparently subsequently pulled from a flight out of Denver by the FBI, interviewed for a number of hours and relieved of some kit.

People may think: "shooting the messenger". But hang on. Roberts told Fox News (I quote from Fox) "We can still take planes out of the sky thanks to the flaws in the in-flight entertainment systems...."

Here is a guy who claims publicly to be able to "take planes out of the sky" getting on an airplane with computer equipment. It is surely the task of security services to ensure he is not a threat in any way. If you were a passenger on that airplane, wouldn't you like at least to know he is not suicidal/paranoid/psychotic? In fact, wouldn't you rather he got on with a nice book to read and sent his kit ahead, separately, by courier?

Some of this is quoted from my blog post

PBL Prof. Peter Bernard Ladkin, Faculty of Technology, University of Bielefeld, 33594 Bielefeld, Germany Je suis Charlie Tel+msg +49 (0)521 880 7319

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