Re: [SystemSafety] Stupid Software Errors [was: Overflow......]

From: Matthew Squair < >
Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 10:52:42 +1000

Hi Martyn,

I see the greatest value of carrying out a test of this sort is in finding out things you never anticipated. Not as a substitute for static analysis, code inspections or basic good practice.

Now Boeing knows something about both the product software and the efficacy of their processes. Will they address the 'quality escape', or just fix the immediate problem? That I don't know.

Matthew Squair

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On 5 May 2015, at 12:06 am, Martyn Thomas <martyn_at_xxxxxx wrote:

Was this 8 months of simulation, to find an overflow error that static analysis could find in seconds?

It may even be true that the developers assumed correctly that noone would fly for 8 months without powering off the generators - in which case their fault may have just been not documenting that assumption as a requirement.


On 04/05/2015 13:31, Matthew Squair wrote:

On the other hand I don't think we should loose sight of the fact that

the Boeing 'bug' was found by running a long duration simulation, not

by an airliner falling out of the sky. So perhaps thanks is due to the

Boeing safety or software engineer(s) who insisted on a long run

endurance test and who might have actually learned something from history?

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