Re: [SystemSafety] Wheel detachment from a moving car

From: David Haworth < >
Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 07:18:02 +0200

My tyre dealer recommends checking the wheel nuts after about 50km. They put a little sticker on the steering wheel as a reminder. I think it might be common practice in Germany.

Also, most people here change their wheels twice a year (summer and winter tyres) - that would have an affect on the statistics - a given percentage of errors when changing wheels would translate to a higher accident rate. So maybe something was spotted in the past. Maybe PBL can comment?


On 2015-05-22 08:36:21 +1000, Heath Raftery wrote:
> As far as prevalence goes, I don't have any numbers but I think
> you'd be unlikely to find anyone that doesn't know someone that has
> experienced this. However, the hazard vs mitigation tradeoff
> obviously hasn't tipped over into the realm of it being worthwhile
> addressing.
> The exception of course is in heavy vehicles. Some jurisdictions
> require wheel nut indicators and they're certainly very common here
> in Australia. They solve a slightly different problem though - the
> wheel nut indicators are installed after the nuts are torqued, and
> then passively indicate gradual loosening.
> The passenger car scenario is usually thus: car goes in for service,
> is hoisted and wheels removed. After servicing the wheels are
> replaced and the nuts hand tightened - any more torque and the wheel
> is likely to spin making tightening difficult. The car is then
> lowered on to the wheels and the mechanic *should* then torque the
> nuts. But they get distracted, it's knock-off time, or they just
> forget, and the nuts remain hand tight. That works while you drive
> home, but next time you hit highway speeds a vibration picks up and
> you get overtaken by one of your wheels.
> A procedural change might help, but humans have a way of working
> around procedural changes. Wheel nut indicators and cotter pins wont
> work because most passenger cars do not have proud wheel nuts (aside
> - the wheel bearing nut on the other hand, has been designed to
> accommodate a cotter pin. Someone must have decided it was worth it
> there.). Other solutions like vibration or torque detection are
> likely to be too fiddly, too expensive or too unreliable.
> Maybe there's an opportunity there?
> Heath
> On 22/05/2015 1:25 AM, Scott Nowell wrote:
> >Nearly thirty years ago I was driving our SUV with a snow plow mounted on the front in a small town in New Hampshire. The vehicle was driving fine. Travelling at about 35 mph I applied the brakes and the left front wheel came off and continued down the road at speed until it hit a snow bank and bounced twenty feet in the air. Fortunately the skids of the raised plow hit the road first, preventing damage to the underside of the vehicle.
> >
> >Similar to your partner, the car had been in for service the previous day. Their best guess was the lug nuts had only been hand tightened. The ride had seemed OK, but the ice and snow on the road may have obscured any vibration.
> >
> >Unfortunately it seems likely that any locking wire or cotter pin would also have not been installed.
> >
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> >Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:26 AM
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> >Subject: [SystemSafety] Wheel detachment from a moving car
> >
> >My partner has a nasty near-accident on Tuesday. While travelling on a dual carriageway at 60mph, she became aware of a new noise from the vehicle. Shortly afterwards, the front nearside wheel detached and she saw it roll into an adjacent field. Fortunately the car did not tip over. She is a skilful driver, so she allowed the vehicle to decelerate without using the brake. She was not rear-ended, and when at a slow speed she drove it into the adjacent grass verge. She was shaken but unharmed. The car is beyond economic repair because the steering assembly and other parts are wrecked.
> >
> >She had driven 500 miles since having the tyre on that wheel replaced.
> >
> >This got me thinking:
> >
> >1. How often do wheels detach from cars while travelling? Are there any figures recorded? Have any fatalities occurred as a result?
> >
> >2. Why is there no requirement on manufacturers and fitters to use locking wire, a cotter pin, or some other mechanism to ensure that the wheel nuts cannot come off? I notice that some HGVs do use locking wire on the wheel nuts.
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