Re: [SystemSafety] Wheel detachment from a moving car / problem was solved many years ago, not widely adopted

From: RICQUE Bertrand (SAGEM DEFENSE SECURITE) < >
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 09:54:09 +0200


Personally, 0 miles but around 500 000 km and no tire lost.

Bertrand Ricque
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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:15 PM
To: Bernd Sieker; systemsafety_at_xxxxxx Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Wheel detachment from a moving car / problem was solved many years ago, not widely adopted

I've got no idea how many miles I've driven in my life, but probably in the neighborhood of about 350,000. In all that time, I've seen wheels lost--by other people--twice. Once was on a freeway in California, I was headed north, they were headed south on the other side. I remember seeing the wheel bouncing down the southbound lanes as the car it came of at came to an abrupt halt. The other was when a wheel fell off a boat trailer.

I've seen the explosive failure on large trucks (lorries) twice just in the last 5 years. Big tires, big bang with lots of noise.

US drivers commonly see the fallen off tread from failed retread tires. You probably can't drive 50 miles without seeing that.

I remember my parents having Chrysler cars in the 1960 with the left- and right-hand wheel nuts. I remember being told that it was that way because of tire rotation it would tend to tighten loose wheel nuts rather than loosen them. It would be interesting to analyze when wheels do fall off do they tend to fall off the same side?? (thus, arguing for going back to the left- and right-hand format).

Cheers,

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From: Bernd Sieker <sieker_at_xxxxxx Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:07 AM
To: "systemsafety_at_xxxxxx <systemsafety_at_xxxxxx Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Wheel detachment from a moving car / problem was solved many years ago, not widely adopted

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This is strange; I talked to a number of people, and nobody knows anyone, or knows anyone who heard of anyone who has ever lost a wheel while driving. At least in Germany. I can't recall a single case being reported in the newspapers. Maybe shop procedures are better over here.

Having a tyre fail is much more common, and almost everyone either had it happen to him or knows someone directly to whom it happened. Either complete (slow) deflation, explosive failure (rare) or losing parts of the tread (especially on retreaded tyres. Happened to my wife, and it was the last time we ever bought retreaded).

I heard of the Chrysler way (maybe some German manufacturers also did it?), but it just didn't seem to be worth the hassle because if tightened properly, wheel nuts just didn't fail.

Bernd

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