Re: [SystemSafety] The VW Saga

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:48:02 +0200

It depends.

I you are looking for a product with good performances, don't care about side effects and in addition know that you don't have the responsibility of side effects, Bill is a very good supplier ...

It raises interesting questions. Can the retrofit be mandatory ? How can the usual periodic tests (very generic) discover a problem designed to be hidden ?

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This raises possibly more issues than it clarifies.

The situation is that, in order to conform with regulations on NOx emissions, unsustainable amounts of AdBlue were injected into the burn mixture during formal tests. Without this, the NOx emissions were substantially more than the amount allowed by regulations.

How to fix this?

If it can be fixed through a SW change, as is claimed here for some models, that says that the HW is perfectly well able to conform with emission regulations. So the question is why the emission levels would have been faked at all on these vehicles. I can see some possible reasons. One is that VW engineers didn't know before the scandal that these vehicles could conform without faking the test. With the huge amount of effort that goes into understanding and tweaking the performance of road vehicle engines, that is hard to believe. Another is that the engineers knew the engine model could conform, but couldn't be bothered to configure it to do so. That would be supremely cynical. But one of those must have been the case.

Other models will get changed HW. Given that it has only taken a few months to redesign the HW so that it will conform with emissions regulations without faking, one wonders why that wasn't done years ago, or (to be a little more cynical) in Spring 2014 when it became clear to VW that third parties knew the tests had been faked. The answer could be that the redesign comes with a performance penalty of some sort; either less power or higher fuel consumption. Neither of those is going to make any buyer happy - they will have been sold a product that, when modified as proposed, does not live up to the performance claims when they bought it.

If such a vehicle was bought within the last two years, and some millions of those vehicles were, then European law entitles a buyer to compensation. Similar things happen in the US with different legal mechanisms. Think class actions suits in every EU country and the US. That is all going to amount to a huge amount of money, even without the fines that are all but certain to be levied in the US. There is a reason VW stock has plummeted.

And if woudl be that VW has redesigned the HW in a couple months so that it conforms, *without* significant performance penalties, one wonders why on earth that wasn't done before. Why cheat people when there is no need?

One aspect of this has not yet been emphasised. A number of engineers, very possibly a large number of engineers, knew that emissions tests on these engines were being faked. British engineers who belong to a professional engineering society (including members who are not Chartered Engineers) subscribe to a code of conduct that expressly rules out collaborating to mislead clients. The engineers who knew about the faked tests will have violated that code and by rights could have their membership terminated, were they to belong to a British engineering professional society.

German engineers qualify as engineers through their university degree solely and maintain that status when they practice engineering. Were VW to be a British company, then chucking people en masse out of the professional engineering societies could be a plausible action. In Germany there is no such possible measure to be taken, as far as I can see.

Professional codes of conduct in professional societies have their purpose. I will be suggesting to my colleagues in VDE that they think of introducing and enforcing one.

VW has taken out full-page advertisements in newspapers, such as our local one this week. The page is mainly blank, with the VW logo at the bottom and a short statement in the middle. VW is aiming, it says, to regain the trust of its clients.

The situation is that VW has been systematically and deliberately misleading its customers about the performance of 11m of its cars for years. When informed by a third party in early 2014 that they knew about it, the company apparently did little. It acted decisively only when the US regulator took explicit public action, over a year later. All that is in the public record.

Let's say you are a customer of a shop, where it turns out shopkeeper Bill has been systematically selling you and everyone else stuff that doesn't do what it was bought for, but you hadn't thought to check. Like Gary Bolton selling Her Majesty's Armed Forces fake "bomb detectors". The local authorities find out, and tell Bill that they know. Nothing happens, so a year later the authorities tell the public that "Bill has been deliberately selling you stuff that doesn't work. We found out about it last year, told Bill, but Bill didn't change his practice. So now we are telling everyone."

Bill takes out a full-page advert in the local paper telling his customers he wants to regain their trust.

Would you go back and buy from Bill? I wouldn't. I would be astonished if Bill ever got another customer. Assuming, of course, that there are other shops to buy from whose keepers don't behave like Bill.

Bolton went to jail.

I think this story has a long way to run.

PBL Prof. Peter Bernard Ladkin, Faculty of Technology, University of Bielefeld, 33594 Bielefeld, Germany Je suis Charlie Tel+msg +49 (0)521 880 7319

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