Re: [SystemSafety] The VW Saga

From: Peter Bernard Ladkin < >
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 11:15:18 +0200


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On 2015-10-12 10:48 , RICQUE Bertrand (SAGEM DEFENSE SECURITE) wrote:
> It depends.

It sure does!

(I'm slowly beginning to think this is your way of saying "Hi everyone!" :-) )

> It raises interesting questions. Can the retrofit be mandatory ? How can the usual periodic
> tests (very generic) discover a problem designed to be hidden ?

The questions are indeed interesting, and complicated. I raised this issue a while ago (in 2014, I think) privately. Both colleagues thought one could never get companies to agree to open up their SW IP (as Naughton points out, an increasing portion of the value of a product) to third-party inspection. But one of them thinks it an appropriate measure, as I do.

It can't be impossible. For a long time, companies have had to open their finances to independent inspection once a year. For financial companies (some of the very biggest companies), almost their entire IP consists in that. It also doesn't always work (Enron, WorldCom, Lehmann, Madoff). But it mostly does.

So it can be done. What's different about the case for SW?

It would have to be done through legal instrument, as with finances. And if just one country passes such a law, then there is the danger that multinationals will just stop selling their products there.

But I bet there's a way somehow.

PBL Prof. Peter Bernard Ladkin, Faculty of Technology, University of Bielefeld, 33594 Bielefeld, Germany Je suis Charlie
Tel+msg +49 (0)521 880 7319 www.rvs.uni-bielefeld.de

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