Re: [SystemSafety] How Many Miles of Driving Would It Take to Demonstrate Autonomous Vehicle Reliability?

From: Olmo Gonzalez < >
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 15:48:09 +0200


Hi,

I'm a long time lurker, but couldn't avoid missing on this one...

*"Lets make the counters at least 32 [64] bits, so by the time they overflow, we'll all be retired anyway ..."* Just out of curiosity, how many times have people on this list heard this being said?

Regards,
Olmo

P.S: Opinons are my own and not those of my employer, etc... </std::disclaimer>

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:36 PM, RICQUE Bertrand (SAGEM DEFENSE SECURITE) < bertrand.ricque_at_xxxxxx

> Safety critical software is not a question of time. It is a question of
> hunting bugs, in particular in uneasy access corners, using dedicated
> methodologies, techniques and tools.
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> Say that you forgot to take into account in your software the fact that
> every 100 years bissextile years are not as every 4 years, you will never
> find it whatever the number of kilometres, cars and hours you use the
> system between 2001 and 2099…
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> And whatever the good performance of your system during 99 years, there
> will be absolutely zero excuse for the consequent accidents …
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> A good way to challenge the designers of such systems would be to make
> their children responsible for the damages …
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> *From:* systemsafety [mailto:
> systemsafety-bounces_at_xxxxxx > Tudor
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2016 2:27 PM
> *To:* Matthew Squair
> *Cc:* Bielefield Safety List
> *Subject:* Re: [SystemSafety] How Many Miles of Driving Would It Take to
> Demonstrate Autonomous Vehicle Reliability?
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> This report has just come to my attention. Stats based and an interesting
> read as it addresses most of the points made on this thread in one way or
> another:
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> http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1478.html
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> On 18 April 2016 at 22:01, Matthew Squair <mattsquair_at_xxxxxx >
> More that I don't see the value of multi million trip test programs that
> others might. ;)
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> On 18 Apr 2016, at 10:13 PM, Peter Bernard Ladkin <
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> On 2016-04-18 14:03 , Matthew Squair wrote:
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> But I'd personally be comfortable after a couple of months of realistic
> road trials.
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> Hey, folks, we gotta volunteer!......... How you gonna line all those
> companies up, Matthew? :-)
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> PBL
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